Letter no. 4.

         first i have to thank you for writting,and at the main time to prove and answear your claim too,
you did not write back about LOT story with his two dougter.or about that mohamed(saw)is he a murder or not comparison to mosses(saw) or that muhamed married many ladies but ibrahim(saw)and it is for reason for those great prophet but let us descuse what you told me about the great historical writer.if you realized that all of them were porn after the jesus death as u belive Cornelius Tacitus, a Roman historian, (born AD 52) it means he saw nothing he just heard not just him ,all of them somebody 112 am or .......... ok
let say these people have a mircle thet they can see what happened before them with 100 years. issa(saw)did he said in your bible that am the only son begoten for the father.......no may be he said our father        may be in your bible.that means that we are the same like jesus we are the his brothers     ok .if you have cat do you think the cat can have a dog brother        noway it should be cat ,and my brother jesus is god so am a god that is logic.
2nd you said that jesus after he get killed by the jews.he came back ..........may be let say yes with which state. i mean a man or god.........with body or saul
tell me please because i have something you gonna like it. he should be as a god way to make the people belive in him. but in the bible he said (it is me why you scare .....and he ate with them fish and honey)  why he ate ,it is human nature to eat and drink and to go to bathroom
do god need to eat or to drink  waw     noway .
you have to open your brain and think ,why god need son ,is he feeling bored,is he need help,is he need support        nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
why he has chosen jesus ..why not adam  the first human creation,he creat adam from clay ....from no man no women .at least issa(saw)from woman.
all you need to read the quran with feeling that you are looking for the truth not to think
that a regular human as you or me can find faults in quran.
and if jesus is the only begoten son for allah ,why god did not mention him in torah or ibrahim book
why no body talk about the son before he came.
did you really read the bible or the torah...................may be but am sure you did not read the quran
thanx
OSAMA

 

Dear Sam:
             I am happy to receive your letter.   Perhaps you did not understand that I wanted to deal with one issue at a time.  I will be happy to talk about Lot and his daughters and the other issues you mention.  The reason for wanting one issue at a time is to stay focused.  If we can’t stay focused on one issue, it is easy to scatter a lot of charges or claims around without ever getting to the conclusion of an issue.   Of course, it may be that you don’t want to get to any conclusion.
If that is your intention, then it will not be possible to carry on a meaningful discussion.
            Now, let me deal with your comments about my comments.

            You said, “let us descuse what you told me about the great historical writer.if you realized
that all of them were porn after the jesus death as u belive
Cornelius Tacitus, a Roman historian, (born AD 52) it means he saw nothing he just heard
not just him ,all of them somebody 112 am or ..........ok”

            All historical documents fit into the same category.  It is true that Tacitus did not see Jesus, but if you apply the same reasoning to Mohammed, you have not seen him, you only have the words that are claimed to be by Mohammed.   Therefore, you should not believe those words. However, if you want to give credibility to the words of Mohammed you have to give the same to the writers before.    These writers had no vested interest in saying Jesus was crucified. Mohammed did have a vested interest in saying what he said.   If he had admitted the death and resurrection of Jesus, it would have undercut his claims.   You cannot have it both ways, to trust history when it is something you want to do, and distrust it when it goes against your claim.
            There were eye witnesses to the life of Jesus and his miracles that were confirmed by his enemies.   The wonderful thing about the life of Jesus is that He is alive and He loves you.
Mohammed is dead and he know nothing about you.   In Jesus there is forgiveness of sins
and the promise of life in the presence of God forever.

            You wrote    }with which state. i mean a man or god.........with body or saul tell me please because i have something you gonna like it.
he should be as a god way to make the people belive in him. but in the bible he said (it is me why you scare .....and he ate with them fish and honey)  why he ate ,it is human nature to eat and drink and to go to bathroom do god need to eat or to drink  waw     noway .”

            You are struggling with the idea of God taking on human form.  Your statement affirms the problem that the disciples of Jesus had.  They did not believe in the resurrection either until he showed Himself to them.  “Why are you scared?” is precisely the way they felt, thinking it was a ghost, but the reason for the food and drink was to show that He had truly risen from the dead.  What better way to show them that He was real than to eat with them.   You are right that  God does not need to eat, but the God-man (Jesus) proved to them who He was by eating to show that he was real and his resurrection affirmed his deity.

            Now for the issue about Lot.    You need to understand that the Bible records many things about people that are not approved by God.    There are sins of various people, not only Lot, but Abraham, David, Solomon, among others.
            One of the issues concerns the status of a prophet.   Do you believe Lot was a prophet?
If so, why?   The Bible does not describe him as a prophet.   Regardless, Lot’s sin is mentioned but there is no approval of this on the part of Yahweh.  Neither is the sin of David approved. It was condemned by God.   The sin of Moses was murder.  Even the murder of an enemy is not approved.
            These leaders were sinners as all of us are sinners in need of God’s forgiveness. Only Jesus was without sin and He was so because He was the God-man who did not sin but who died to establish the New Covenant (Mt. 26:26) which was prophesied by Jeremiah 31:31ff.
            There are lots of things described in the Old Testament which are not sanctioned by God.
That’s the reason they needed to have a Redeemer in Jesus the promised Messiah.

            You wrote, “if  jesus is the only begoten son for allah ,why god did not mention him in torah or ibrahim book why no body talk about the son before he came.did you really read the bible or the torah...................may be but am sure you did not read the quran

            Sam, they did write about Him.  Moses spoke of the Prophet who would come later (Dt. 18:18), Isaiah spoke of Him, (7:14, 9:6; 11:1-16) Jeremiah 31:31, Malachi 3:1-3 and many others.   I could give you an extensive listing of them if you wished.   In the fullness of time God sent forth his Son (Gal.4:4) so that it was God’s timing, not our wishes.
           
            This is enough for now.   I look forward to hearing from you.  Remember, let’s keep focus on a few issues and we can expand them as we come to some conclusions together.
With best wishes,   D.